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Another 3 weeks on…..

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So sorry for not updating for the past three weeks but time has just been pressed with other mundane things in life.

The good news though is that I have been on a great run. Whilst I will not post the specific results for the last three weeks here, I will at the end of the month post a link to the full results for September.

I will summarise the last three weeks…..

Since the 7th September, there has been 38 selections, of which 33 have duly lost, giving 35 winning bets.

The betting bank in this time has gone from the previous level of £1631.06 to £1906.35 using the new staking system. Again this system has out performed the old system and I will be sticking wiith it for the future.

It just goes to show how important staking systems are and that every opportunity should be taken to review your work as often as possible.

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6 Weeks On………..

1st September

3.30 Kempton Lay King’s Event Lost
5.40 Lingfield Lay Penrice Castle Lost

2nd September

2.00 Goodwood Lay Balnagore Lost
5.05 Southwell Lay Saleima Lost

3rd September

5.00 Brighton Lay Batchworth Blaise Lost

4th September

8.20 Great Leighs Lay Cool Sands  Lost

5th September

8.50 Kempton Lay Daring Racer Lost

7th September

2.00 Thirsk Lay Andrasta Lost
3.30 Thirsk Lay Horatio Carter Lost

A clean sweep this week, all winning bets no losses.

Betting bank started the week at £1631.06

New Staking Plan Hi Pro Bank now stands at £1744.52

Profit on the week

New Staking Plan + £113.46

Old Staking Plan + £84.81

Level Stakes + £90.00

No huge differences this week as they were all winning bets, but still very encouraging a great week and confidence to stick with the new staking plan.

Until next week….

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5 Weeks……..

25th August

3.45 Warwick Lay Squirtle  Lost

4.40 Cartmel Lay Flying Doctor  Lost

5.40 Kempton Lay Golden Penny  Lost

26th August

 2.30 Gt Leighs Lay Game Lady  Lost                
4.30 Great Leighs Lay Wallonia  Lost

27th August 

2.30 Gt Leighs Lay Mac Dalia Lost                      
3.40 Ayr Lay Alexander Huricane Lost

28th August 

5.10 Ayr Lay Apache Nation Lost

29th August

2.55 Chester Lay Keep Discovering Won
5.30 Sandown Lay Kingdom Of Fife  Won
7.40 Salisbury Lay Hadron Collider  Lost

3.05 Hamilton Lay Valiant Romeo  Lost

30th August

4.15 Sandown Lay Muftarres Lost

4.25 Ripon Lay Lee Miller Lost

5.10 Newton Abbot Lay He’s The Gaffer Won

6.15 Bath Lay Hallings Overture Lost

31st August

2.40 Folkestone Lay Enodoc Lost                         
4.00 Newton Abbot Lay Foolish Myth Lost

An interesting week this week with the implimentation of the Hi Pro staking plan, so has the predicted increase in profits happened against the old staking plan and level stakes.

Well the answer is yes but level stakes beats the new plan, Immediately I start to think here we go again as soon as you put the theory into practise it goes against you. But the truth is it has not, it has done exactly as expected, its just that level stakes for the first time has out performed the new staking plan.

Reults:

Bank £1563.86

New Hi Pro + £67. 20 new bank £1631.06

Level Stakes + £74.13

Old Maria + £35.65

This week level stakes outperformed Hi Pro by £6.93. This is the first time this has happened since monitoring the three staking plans. The key element is that the new staking plan again out performed the old and I expect it to continue to do so.

A good profit on the week and I will operate on the same basis for the next few weeks risking a mere 0.75% of bank with the new staking system before I increase the stake.

Until next week.

The very best of luck

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4 Weeks On…..

It’s now 4 weeks since I amalgamated the bank and concentrated on system 1 only using my existing staking plan and monitoring at level stakes and the Hi Pro staking plan also.

So how have things gone?

Results of the last week follow and a full summary after.

18th August

4.45 Wolverhampton Lay Kansas Gold  Lost
4.30 Lingfield Lay H Harrison  Lost

19th August

2.35 Brighton Lay Seneschal  Won

4.50 Brighton Lay Steig  4.1   Lost
6.55 Southwell Lay Faith And Reason  Won

21st August

3.50 Gt Leighs Lay Hazzard County Lost

5.40 Chester Lay Tanforan  Lost

5.55 Fontwell Lay Premier Hope  Lost

22nd August

8.20 Hamilton Lay Tamasou  Lost

23rd August

2.50 Beverley Lay Trans Sonic  Lost

A bit of a slow week with not as many bets, however, my existing staking plan saw the bank move from £1577.43 to £1563.86, that’s a loss of £13.57.

Level Stakes showed also showed a loss of £17.35.

Hi Pro again proved to be the best performer and showed a profit of £68.97.

Consistently week on week the Hi Pro staking plan has out performed my staking plan and level stakes by a considerable margin and to just a 1% stake of bank. So is the conclusion that I move immediately to the Hi Pro plan? Well let’s take a look at the 4 weeks as a whole before I jump in.

Starting point (amalgamation of betting banks)

£1501.20

4 weeks later

Existing Plan  £1564.10

Level Stakes £1686.49

Hi Pro 86 £2103.88

4 weeks profit:

Existing £62.90

Level  £185.29

Hi Pro  £602.68

Very interesting results indeed. But before I get carried away and go head on into the Hi Pro staking Plan, a little more analysis is necessary.

So what do we know so far? Well we know that my existing staking plan (Maria) is a proven low risk never go broke kind of system that relies on compounding to build the bank. What is evident is that unless you are in a position to start with a fairly large bank then it is going to take some considerable time before you see returns that are really meaningful. Having said that I am not adverse to this at all, it has been the mainstay of my testing and activities for well over two years now.

Level stakes is again at the level I have tested i.e. just 1% of bank is a pretty safe and secure investment as long as the results continue at somewhere near the 80% strike rate. This rate has been consistently achieved so there are no apparent worries with this strategy. However again long term profits are what will result here.

Now to the interesting Hi Pro. On the face of it, it appears that considerably higher profits and faster growth can be achieved but we have to look a little deeper. Firstly we have to note that with this staking plan it is quite important to be able to react to the result of each race, although it could work by reacting on a daily basis after a series of reslts but it is unknown how well this would work. I would guess that it would still show good profits but may be a little lower.

The most important thing to look at is the risk reward. The other two plans are very low risk and moderate reward or safe returns to put it another way.

We know Hi Pro is a loss recovery program, which in the past I have always steered well clear of as they often involve high stakes and a lot of risk. The difference with Hi Pro is that some of that risk is removed by the employment of the safety element which avoids the stakes getting excessively high. Or a stop loss to put it another way.

This is the area which we need to look at closely. So on assessment of the 4 week results and the data that I have input from results passed the conclusions are as follows:

The loss recovery element is employed over a cycle or cycles if a couple of losses occur within a few races. Each cycle completes before either a successful recovery has been made or until such time as the recovery can not be made and returns to 1% of bank stakes. In other words at some points we have to accept that a loss has occurred. The truth of the matter is that we have to accept a loss with all three staking plans at some point it is inevitable. The question with the Hi Pro plan at the point of a loss is what level of stakes we are using.

The answer is that in a loss recovery cycle it is evident that we can get to stakes in the region of 4% of our betting bank before either the loss is recovered or the stop comes into play.

So what we have to way up is the risk. With the other two plans we know the risk is never going to be more than 1% of bank, unless we change it of our own volition. Now we know that we will have to increase this percentage of bank with Hi Pro and is it to an acceptable level. Well at around 4 % of bank maximum, my honest opinion is that this would normally be a little to high for me bearing in mind that we all know of my truly conservative nature from my long testing period. However!

I have looked in depth at the times when the cycles have been brought into play, and the fact that our 80% plus strike rate means that we complete the recovery cycle more times than  we employ the stop loss I have made the following conclusion.

4% of bank is not a huge risk given the circumstances with how results have gone so I will be as from now! implementing the Hi Pro staking plan.

But me being me, I am going to adopt a slightly more cautious attitude as is my way and start with a 0.75% of bank stake for a period of two months to see how the results pan out.

Yes I know it seems like I am not following my convictions and what the results clearly show is manageable and evidently successful but that’s me.

I will still show results of all three plans for the foreseeable future but my own money is now firmly in the Hi Pro Staking Plan.

Just of interest and to make things even more interesting had 3% of bank been used as the stake level for the past 4 weeks the profit would have been……………………..

………………………………………….£2,400.56

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Week 3 Since Absence

11th August

8.30 Thirsk Lay Chiff Chaff Lost

4.30 Wolverhampton Lay Mad Professor Lost

7.20 Windsor Lay Diriculous Lost

12th August

4.00 Lingfield Lay Dvinksky Lost

14th August

2.10 Beverley Lay Floodlight Fantasy Lost

7.30 Great Leighs Lay Suede Lost

15th August

5.55 Kempton Lay Brandywell Boy Lost

16th August

3.40 Bangor On Dee Lay Ballinruane Lost
8.00 Lingfield Lay Patavium Prince Won

8.10 Market Raisen Lay Cee Cee Rider Lost

Almost a perfect week, continuing with the staking plan the bank has moved ahead from £1545.30 to £1577.43.

A profit of £32.13

The results using the additional staking plans being monitored are as follows:

Level Stakes - A profit of 3.8 points

Hi Pro 86 - A profit of £49.08

Again the Hi Pro 86 staking plan has outperformed the others. It has to be noted though that taking a weekly view of the Hi Pro staking plan is not doing it justice and getting the full picture. As it works on a loss recovery basis, a longer term view needs to be taken to allow the stats to convert if the plan is in a losing recovery cycle.

So it is interesting to note the performance of all three staking plans since the amalgamation of my staking bank, to do this I have input the data on the following basis.

As my existing staking plan uses a percentage of bank according to the price of the horse and puts at risk a maximum of 1% of bank at any one time, I will use 1% of bank for both Level Stakes and Hi Pro 86 in order that the comparative results can be viewed on an equal basis.

Existing Staking plan start £1501.20 after three weeks £1577.43 an increase of £76.23

Level Stakes an increase of £192.75

Hi Pro 86 an increase of £452.81

Looking at these results over the three weeks it is quite clear that my existing staking plan is performing the poorest and the Hi Pro plan out performing the other two by a considerable margin.

In fact a £376.58 difference!!

And that’s with a conservative 1% of bank being put at risk at any one time.

Talking to a Professional gambler colleague of mine, he operates on the basis that he aims to win/lose 5% of his bank at any given time, so if I had adopted this attitude with the Hi Pro staking plan then the results would have been quite staggering.

In fact a profit of £3112.33 would have been produced over the three week period.

It seems quite inevitable that I will have to adopt the Hi Pro plan. However, in my usual cautious way I will not be moving to 5% of bank, certainly not for some considerable time anyway.

My plan now is to carry on as normal for the next week and review again the results over a then four week period and move to the Hi Pro plan at 1% of bank.

Interesting times ahead and perhaps some proper money to be made.

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Week Two since absence

4th August

3.15 Ripon Lay Great Charm - Lost
3.45 Ripon Lay Buddy Holly - Lost

3.45 Ripon Lay Demolition - Won
7.00 Windsor Lay Woodcote - Lost

5th August

5.00 Catterick Lay Ubenkor  - Won                               
5.15 Chepstow Lay Don Pietro  - Lost                           
5.30 Catterick Lay Taboor - Lost

6th August

2.10 Pontefract Lay Holiday Cocktail - Won

4.00 Brighton Lay Count Ceprano - Lost
4.10 Pontefract Lay Mr Wolf  - Lost
5.00 Brighton Lay Tittle - Lost
5.10 Pontefract Lay Moonage Daydream - Lost
5.35 Yarmouth Lay Bentley  - Lost
6.50 Kempton Lay Le Chiffre - Lost
8.50 Kempton Lay Ebn Malk - Lost

7th August

2.50 Yarmouth Lay Lavande - Lost

8th August

2.30 Brighton Lay Micheal’s Boy  - Lost                   
4.00 Brighton Lay Punching   - Lost                        

4.30 Brighton Lay Solo River - Won
4.50 Worcester Lay Andrew Nick - Lost
5.10 Lingfield Lay Kanno - Lost

5.30 Brighton Lay Night Prospector - Lost                
7.20 Newmarket Lay Soviet  - Lost

9th August

1.10 Ascot Lay Crimson Fern - Lost
1.45 Ascot Lay Summer Gold - Lost
2.20 Ascot Lay Shifting Star - Won
2.55 Ascot Lay Bogside Theatre - Lost

3.35 Redcar Lay Last Three Minutes - Lost
7.50 Ayr Lay Shy Glance - Lost

7.50 Ayr Lay Boy Dancer - Lost
8.20 Ayr Lay Papa’s Princess - Lost

10th August

4.20 Leicester Lay Beverley Hill Billy - Lost
4.50 Leicester Lay King Of Rhythm - Lost

Continuing with my staking plan, a very good week after a poor start taking the bank from £1488.59 to £1545.30.

A  profit of £56.71

Also an excellent week following the additional staking plans being monitored.

Level Stakes - a profit of £8.65

Hi Pro 86 - a profit of £174.50

It is interesting to note that Level Stakes performed the worst this week, but of the two staking plans being monitored, again the Hi Pro 86 performed the best. Out performing my staking plan by a considerable margin once more. Also worthy of note that this plan whilst it operates a loss recovery it bails out before stakes get too high and at that point we accept our losses and start over. This happened once during the week.

In conclusion, I will continue to bet and monitor the staking plans as before, but it is looking increasingly likely that the Hi Pro staking plan should be adopted in the near future.

 
 

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Week One Since Abscense

28th July
4.15 Southwell Lay Kelamon - Lost
4.45 Southwell Lay Kimono My House - Won
5.00 Yarmouth Lay Ruwain - Lost
7.20 Uttoxeter Lay Ballybough Jack - Lost

31st July
2.40 Nottingham Lay Invincible Lad - Lost
5.55 Sandown Lay Gold Prospect - Lost

2nd August
2.15 Doncaster Lay Peter’s Storm - Lost
3.05 Thirsk Lay My Paris - Lost
3.40 Thirsk Lay Dispol Isle - Lost
7.20 Lingfield Lay Spin Again - Won
8.05 Hamilton Lay Hypnosis - Lost
8.20 Lingfield Lay Cape Of Storms - Lost

3rd August
3.50 Newbury Lay Cheveton - Won
4.30 Chester Lay Prelude - Lost

Continuing with my staking plan, a poor week with three losing bets, putting the bank back from the amalgamted point of £1.501.20 to £1488.59.

A loss of £12.61.

As mentioned in my previous post I have been looking at alternative staking plans and whilst I intended to post the results of these on a monthly basis, my staking plan software allows me to enter the data and quickly see the results. So it is interesting to note that, whilst my existing staking plan showed a loss, the results for the week from the other two staking plans would have been as follows:

Level Stakes : An increase in bank of £4.00
Hi Pro 86 : An increase in bank of £53.44

I will report the alternative staking plans weekly from now on also and continue to monitor the stakes at risk with these.

Until next week.

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RECENT ABSENCE

Hi everybody, so sorry that I have not posted for some time now and the records have not been kept up to date, it is very regrettable.

Unfortunately, my father had a period of several weeks illness in hospital and passed away, so I had to scale everything down and concentrate on more important matters.

Whilst I still have much to deal with, I will be starting to make regular posts again. My plan for now is that I will post summarised results on a weekly basis as opposed to daily until I can free up the time to do so again. With regards to results for my period of absence, well a couple of things have happened.

Because of the situation, I decided to follow just one of the three systems as best I could and whilst I did miss a few days I managed to keep it going but did not keep a full and precise log of my result other than my Betfair account.

Having now returned to committing to this again, I have had time to take stock and to think things through a little and have drawn the following conclusions:

Whilst I fully believe that Systems 2 and 3 were working, and would continue to do so, System 1 was performing better and had done so in the past. Therefore in order to condense my time and to increase my profits I have decided that I would drop System 3 completely and resurrect System 2 from a new starting point when the all weather season gets back into full flow.

To increase my profits, I therefore amalgamated all three betting banks two weeks ago.

This meant adding £450.35 from System 2 and £438.96 from System 3 to the betting bank of System 1.

From the bets I have placed in the past 5/6 weeks or so, the betting bank for System 1 has increased but due to a particularly tough July, it has not made any great strides and stood at £623.34 when I amalgamated the banks.

In the past two weeks System 1 has been very much up and down and the bank has actually declined a little (July has been hard), to a combined total from all three banks of £1.501.20

It is from this point that I will now record results on a weekly basis starting from Monday 28th July.

I can not put up the individual details of all the bets during the gap period as I simply placed the bets on Betfair and that’s that. It would be possible for me to pull the details from my Betfair account and post the last 30 days or so but it would take me far too long and consume time which I just don’t have, I am sure you will understand and appreciate.

I do have a couple of further announcements to make, the first of which is that I have recently purchased The Staking Plan software which is a great piece of kit for not a great deal of money and allows me to record my results and analyse them through different staking plans. This has proved very very interesting indeed.

My previous staking plan has always been one of conservatism (as readers) you will know and it has been interesting to note that alternative staking plans could have increased my profits considerably. Being ever cautious and careful, I looked in depth at the alternatives and immediately dismissed most of them as the risk reward was beyond my conservatism. However I did find two others which were of interest, would have increased profits and did not involve over worryingly high stakes. From now on I will still be backing using my existing plan and expect profits to increase due to the amalgamation of betting banks and the compounding effect now being applied to higher figures. I will however report on a monthly basis the results from three staking plans as follows:

Existing staking plan (Maria)
Level Stakes
HiPro 86

The second of my new announcements is that I have been in discussions with an individual who has been proofing his lay selections to me for some time now and who is achieving very similar profitable results. As a consequence we have agreed to combine forces with the expectant result that we should double our returns. To this effect we have started a new service which I have been working on into the small hours for the last couple of weeks and which will be launched very very soon. This will be a combination of our lay expertise and can be found at www.whattolay.com. So please feel free to take a look.

It’s good to be back and I hope to be able to continue with my ambition.

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Day 158

Day 158 16th June 2008

System 1

4.15 Carlisle Lay Chaenomeles @ 5.1 Stake £3.58 Result Lost
3.30 Sedgefield Lay Floodlight Fantasy @ 4.5 Stake £3.58 Result Lost
6.40 Warwick Lay Kokkokila @ 4.5 Stake £3.58 Result Won

Bank £597.25 + £3.85 + £3.85 - £12.17 = £592.78

An up and down ride lately, hopwfully a good winning run will return soon.

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Day 157

Day 157 15th June 2008

System 3

3.35 Salisbury Back Borderlesscott @ 2.75 Stake £4.43 Result Lost

Bank £443.39 - £4.43 = £438.96

A busy day but only the one selection and system 3 continues to tread water, let’s hope the mold breaks soon.

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